Well the city here has been having problems with too many geese - leaving too much poops in the park.
The city council, six men, one woman came up with a solution. Do I have to tell you what it was? See below the quote by Albert Einstein. They start shooting on the day the children return to school. Two men voted against the killing. City council member Russ Steeber (a deputy sheriff) wanted to see bows and arrows used! The woman was right there voting with the rest of the killers. If I hear one more idiot talk about how women are innately different from men I will puke all over them. Most women, like most males are vicious mothers.
Therefore, in the interest of human evolution, I present the below information. But first it must be said that despite the used of methods other than killing, the root of the problem is not addressed by these alternatives. It is simply not moral to destroy all the habitat of other species who live on this earth leaving them nothing in the midst of vast stretches of human populations; leaving no wildlife refuge where they could rest on their long travels.
Geese Poop
I heard on Larry's Meiller's Wisconsin Public Radio Show at noon, that golf courses in Madison and the Madison Park Commission were considering using border collies to control the geese; and that they actually had the dogs working at one golf course. Larry Meiller said the geese were all gone in one park and there was no further problem with geese poop. He said it was something to see those dogs, who herd sheep, herding those geese.
When I heard Janesville was shooting in the park, I wrote Larry asking for specifics. Below is the answer he sent me.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Meiller"
To:
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 1:20 PM
Subject: GEESE
Hi Virginia:
Joy Cardin passed along your request for information about those goose herding dogs! In fact, my wife and I were golfing at Yahara Hills golf course yesterday and witnessed a border collie
chasing geese into a pond. He was with a handler and too far away for us to ask questions but I expect the dog was being trained.
You could call the pro shop at Yahara and ask. The general number is (608) 838-3126.
On another recent occasion we were golfing at The Meadows of Six Mile Creek at Waunakee and witnessed essentially the same thing with (probably) another handler and dog. The number out there is (608) 849-9000.
I hope this is what you need. Cheers, Larry
Below is a section of a research paper mentioning that Dow Jones is using dogs to get rid of their geese at their home office. I wrote Dow Jones and their reply is pasted below the original research paper section. Dow Jones has become famous for their dogs.
From the Coalition to Prevent the Destruction of Canada Geese; RECOMMENDATIONS
7. USE OF TRAINED DOGS, INCLUDING BORDER COLLIES
Border Collies have proven highly successful in herding geese out of ponds and grassy areas at golf courses and other facilities. Other obedient breeds and mixed-breeds, when trained, have proven successful as well. See Attachment 6 for a report by Dr. Ann Herriott, Cornell Cooperative Extension -
A. Locally, Mary Felegy, offers the services of her dog - a trained Border Collie mixed-breed - to chase off "resident" Canada geese. Among her clients are Camp Venture, Sparkhill (sic), and St. Paul's School,Valley Cottage. Ms. Felegy, a Congers resident, can be reached at 914/268-9371.
B. "Dow Jones and Company Inc. started using two Border Collies (Bert and Bessie) four years ago at their 175-acre corporate headquarters in South Brunswick, NJ. The dogs herd the geese into the pond and then keep circling it. The geese get frustrated because they can't waddle out and eat the grass, so they Ieave. The company is getting inquiries about them from other corporations and from golf courses." (Smithsonian, March 1995).
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "djwebquestions"
> To: "'Virginia Rose'"
> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 1:44 PM
> Subject: RE: please help
Dear Ms. Rose,
It's not a special program. It's a humane solution that the company came up with to keep the geese under control. Unfortunately, we do not have a video or a speaker that can attend a city council meeting. But if you have specific questions, send them in and I'll try to get them answered.
Regards,
Dear Cynthia:
OK it has happened and I knew it would.
This Sunday night, November 3rd, 2002, the show Nature on WPT was about "Living with Animals" and that show had a segment on the problem and solutions to Geese and their poops in parks and golf courses.
It went all through the problems and false solutions and then showed the trainer of border collies (also named Virginia) who saved the day.
But best of all, it showed how she trained the dogs and the special things she had to do to train them for the geese. I kid you not, this segment was really good and not even 10 minutes.
The training they needed was important because here in Janesville, as a sop to the people who wanted them to use dogs, the City Council allowed people with normal dogs to run through the parks in the morning-like that is what we were talking about when we told them to use dogs to control the geese.
Get the video 1-800-336-1917-make an excerpt of just the segment on geese in the parks and show it to bodies like the Janesville city council. Especially Janesville, because then it will be on the public access TV channel as well. Also send the segment to the editor of the Janesville Gazette, as he came out against shooting in the park.
